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  1. rob

    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    Interesting read Grunion, now I have some questions for other SDA people like Chief, LeRoy and yourself. Why does the SDA Church call the HS a "he" and what do they mean by terming the HS a "he"? ( I have never had this answer answered formally by any Pastor or Authority or Person) Hosea 4:19...
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    Angel Michael

    Thank Gentlemen (LeRoy & Chief) your replies are profound. Much to think about. I am humbled by Jesus to be under His Divine Powers granted to me daily because I ask for them. This process of faith and salvation is a simile of the process of anointing. We are lively stones placed with a unique...
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    Well said Chief, I affirm my own two pennies, as the Chief said. Grunion you say the Scriptures say otherwise....that Jesus never failed - never broke faith - Hmm? OK so why did the Devil tempt him relentlessly all his 3 1/2 years as a Preacher? Was the Devil stupid? Eph 1:4 According as he...
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    Angel Michael

    This thread is off to a bad start already You state: "Christ sloughed off His on loaned Divinity You think Jesus-YHWH power of Divinity and Deity comes to Him as a gift by His Father. based on twisting a single verse "he emptied himself" some theories from precepts and traditions of men. It...
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    Grunion selects a message: Ellen White The unity that exists between Christ and His disciples does not destroy the personality of either. They are one in purpose, in mind, in character, but not in person. It is thus that God and Christ are one. {8T 269.4} Look of the mechanics of this. The...
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    Greetings Grunion I re-read and compiled your earlier sentences so I can discuss your view properly. Yes there is a EGW message " Had the head of Christ been touched, the hope of the human race would have perished.Divine wrath would have come upon...
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    Greetings Grunion I watched the video and my answer is NO. The Father's power - Provider Love - would not function if such provider love providing had no-one for this love to respond to. We also learn the Father's power is faithful - What does faith mean? If there is no other parts? Faith...
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    I like what you said Chief, nice succinct EGW too. I would like to add one point though not known to the average SDA: - A study of the word dissolution If it were true that the souls of all men passed directly to heaven at the hour of dissolution, then...
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    Grunion said :"Seventh-day Adventist Dogma views Jesus as a man while from the Incarnation onward - Rob: No we don’t. https://adventist.news/news/the-divinity-of-jesus "Each of the Gospel writers quotes Isaiah 40:3...
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    I have finished reading Canright's book. Lots of questions for you. Copied and will read your links. You did not discuss my first post. “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord.” Deut. 6:4. Here we strike the key-note of the doctrine of the Deity. “The Lord our God is...
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    I am only a few minutes in the book and disagree already “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord.” Deut. 6:4. Here we strike the key-note of the doctrine of the Deity. “The Lord our God is ONE Lord.” Not many, not a thousand, not a...
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    https://www.bdsda.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/The-Personality-of-God-by-D.M.-Canright.pdf So this is expected to be as inspired as EGW material and the Bible as a whole? I will study this and let you know. Shalom
  13. rob

    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    Well my friend this is really something here !! Elder Canright Article The Bible from Heaven," and his articles on the Personality of God are worthy of study, endorsed by EGW? I see. Sabbath Herald, August 29, 1878 Volume 52 No. 10: How do I read this from EGW Writings.org? Did she really...
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    You quote "The Deity of Christ, Charles S Longacre pages 13 - 14: " Another pioneer who is not inspired... I do not read anything except EGW and the Bible. I would suggest you put away these traditions and precepts of men. EGW does not say if Jesus had broken faith, that God would be all alone...
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    Greetings "Who wrote Sabbath Herald November 25, 1880? Certainly not EGW. Maybe Uriah Smith? or some other pioneer? These are not inspired statements and hence I reject them. "one deity" yields no results from EGW Are you postulating "Elohiym" as modal-ism? Cardinally one deity power? No...
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    It was Satan’s purpose to cause Him to doubt that word. If Christ’s confidence in God could be shaken, Satan knew that the victory in the whole controversy would be his. He could overcome Jesus. He hoped that under the force of despondency and extreme hunger, Christ would lose faith in His...
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    Grunion I note your reply but you did not read what "faith" is... You have the idea that a creature can live and make their own independent decisions, and use some independent powers within the creature itself. This idea is a myth and never existed in God's sinless world. Further you suggest if...
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    The Arian Creature-Christ Teaching - How Do Seventh-day Adventists define it?

    Your question is huge, as the Chief said, it would help if you asked specific questions. I had a look at Christadelphians - they view Jesus as a man, not God because 1) God cannot die, and Jesus died 2) God cannot sin, and Jesus was tempted to sin, so had to be able to be tempted Both of...
  19. rob

    Lesson 9: Heirs of Promises, Prisoners of Hope

    You are right Chief and I never saw such happy people, owning absolutely nothing. Village life is a dinner plate as a banana leaf, a bed is a woven mat 5mm thick. As for sickness, once we go over the flues school-kids brought from holiday break, the rest of the 12 weeks we had nothing, no...
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    Lesson 9: Heirs of Promises, Prisoners of Hope

    Israel was an agricultural nation, each lived on customary land that could never be bought or sold and your Government could not get a rates payment from you. The land belonged to God. I love this, occurs in PNG but NOT in Australia. Our land is leased to us as freehold tenants and the Council...
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