Is there more to learn about God?

crystalrainfall

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Do you ever feel like you have learned everything there is to know about the church, and you hunger to learn more about God and the Bible? In the Adventist churches, we are not allowed to ask questions, unless the answer is one of the 28 beliefs. Like what about the prophecies in the Old Testament that Adventists do not clearly understand? Learning more is not acceptable, because every question must be framed within the agreed upon belief set. If a person goes a little beyond what we believe, they backstep and explain it with acceptable Adventist answer. It seems that something is missing. Every Sabbath school lesson rehashes the same beliefs that I have understood for years and years, and nothing is new. God must be bigger, closer, there must be more of the Holy Spirit than a small church in which I don't feel loved or understood. I heard a sermon last week about how the Bible is not one of love, but of rebuke, reproof, exhortation. It left me feeling that God did not love us, until he explained that he meant God wants to warn us to shield us from not being ready when He comes. I think what I am missing is the feeling of being close to God, especially in the church. I do not feel that the people in the church care about me, or that I am important to them. I try to reconnect with old friends from Adventist college, and none of them seem very interested in remaining friends anymore. Do you ever feel like there is more for us to grasp than our set beliefs which are never changing?
 
No I am not clergy, just a nobody who is tutored by the HS with God
I didn't say God died.

When you pull apart the battery cathode from the anode, the electricity does not die. It just ceases.

What does die mean anyway?

DNA code just runs on energy by instructions supplied by energy.
Where does the energy come from ? God - a massive divine battery source

Could you dismantle the grand source by separation?

Ps 22:1 ¶ My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?

With hebrew intent

My strong authority my strong authority why are you separating from me? Why are thou far from Yashua, from my words of my roaring?

Here we see the grand power source of divinity becoming separated....

My two pennies/

Shalom

Well, my apology for the assumption!
You, from the site you sent me to, believe that Jesus is God.
Jesus DIED. Stopped living.
His God and Father RESURRECTED him.
 
Well, my apology for the assumption!
You, from the site you sent me to, believe that Jesus is God.
Jesus DIED. Stopped living.
His God and Father RESURRECTED him.
You mention some interesting points here.
When you talk of a Divine Being such as Jesus-YHWH there are two natures within Him
The divine nature that is immortal and uncaused and the human fallen nature that he took upon Himself
a term I use "encapsulated" the humanity surrounded the divinity, in a mystery manner

The human nature is kept alive by the breath of life from the Father via the medium HS like all humans have.
So that died as we humans also die.

The medium that supplies that living returns to God who gave it.
The divine nature was left alone, and "died" in a sense of being separated from the Father and the Shadday HS.
I say "died" because I have not met anybody who can define death properly.

The Father via the medium came to resurrect Him. And both the humanity and the divinity was pleased at the coming of His Father.

Think of the time you are separated from your parents, you "die" in a sense.
Think of the time you physically end your chemistry.

Hope this helps
 
Well, my apology for the assumption!
You, from the site you sent me to, believe that Jesus is God.
Jesus DIED. Stopped living.
His God and Father RESURRECTED him.
How would you respond to this text?

Philippians 2:5-10 KJV
[5] Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: [6] Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: [7] But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: [8] And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. [9] Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: [10] That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
 
How would you respond to this text?

Philippians 2:5-10 KJV
[5] Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: [6] Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: [7] But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: [8] And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. [9] Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: [10] That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

You quote the KJB with has MANY, MANY errors.

Phil 2:5- Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus,
6- who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,
7- but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant being born in the likeness of men.
8 - And being found in human form he humbled himself and became obedient unto death, even death on a cross.
9- Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name which is above every name,
10- that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth.

(Except HIS!)
 
Show us THIS in the Bible!

Sure from Moses too:

De 18:15 ¶ The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;

Who is this Prophet?

Ex 23:21 Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him.

Father-YHWH calls Him a messenger, because all power to pardon is given to Him.

Notice this messenger is already alive in the time of Moses, in fact reading Moses verses carefully this messenger is Jesus-YHWH

You have not answered my question, how many YHWH are there in Gen 19:24?

Why did you laugh "mad JW"?
 
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They are not the same being!
How do you know they are not the same being?

Please list your Moses verses first, One is sufficient.
I gave you one, Gen 19:24 but you rejected it.

I have give you another Exodus 3: 1 to 4, do you reject this also?

What about Exodus 23: 20 - 23 The messenger that was sent who can pardon sin, The Father's Name is in Him.

Do you reject this also?

What about this fuzzy translation : I will translate the Hebrew construct correctly

Ge 49:18 I have waited for thy Yashah YHWH.
<img src="https://spiritualsprings.org/images/yashuah13.jpg">

If you click on the image link, you see Hebrew words and prefix in yellow

Jews claims common names do not have prefix, and Noah with prefix proves they are wrong.
This is just another example of poor translations and bias in the translator.
Now I can show other examples, all based on the Moses torah where truth must be FIRST established.

Now you show me a single Moses verse where Where the Most High is all alone.

Job is the oldest Moses torah we have, written orally in fact in old Hebrew

In Job 1:1-4 elohiym is presented first, than YHWH ? Why is that?
Why are children called the sons of elohiiym, rather than the sons of YHWH?

Obviously the term elohiym must refer to a "group" a word you used.

Shalom
 
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How do you know they are not the same being?

Please list your Moses verses first, One is sufficient.
I gave you one, Gen 19:24 but you rejected it.

I have give you another Exodus 3: 1 to 4, do you reject this also?

What about Exodus 23: 20 - 23 The messenger that was sent who can pardon sin, The Father's Name is in Him.

Do you reject this also?

What about this fuzzy translation : I will translate the Hebrew construct correctly

Ge 49:18 I have waited for thy Yashah YHWH.
<img src="https://spiritualsprings.org/images/yashuah13.jpg">

If you click on the image link, you see Hebrew words and prefix in yellow

Jews claims common names do not have prefix, and Noah with prefix proves they are wrong.
This is just another example of poor translations and bias in the translator.
Now I can show other examples, all based on the Moses torah where truth must be FIRST established.

Now you show me a single Moses verse where Where the Most High is all alone.

Job is the oldest Moses torah we have, written orally in fact in old Hebrew

In Job 1:1-4 elohiym is presented first, than YHWH ? Why is that?
Why are children called the sons of elohiiym, rather than the sons of YHWH?

Obviously the term elohiym must refer to a "group" a word you used.

Shalom


You are lost in dogma against Jesus.
https://www.christiandiscourse.net/uploads/KT3IY0P5JUN1/john17-3.jpg
 
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